Sunday, March 16, 2014

A prostitute on de Wallen and her boyfriend

Mark van der Beer stopped blogging and twittering, but his girlfriend suddenly appeared on twitter. She calls herself Felicia Anna:

https://twitter.com/feliciaanna27

(PS: Mark van der Beer started tweeting again, and Felicia Anna now also has a blog:)

behindtheredlightdistrict.blogspot.com

For a while there was confusion about her identity. Some people suspected that her account was a hoax. I also suspected this. It wasn’t immediately clear that she was the girlfriend of Mark van der Beer. She suddenly was there and she joined discussions. I recognized the arguments of Mark van der Beer in het arguments. And suddenly I had a Eureka moment.

Because I was aware of who the girlfriend of Mark van der Beer was on de Wallen, I immediately asked Anna Felicia if she was XXXXXX! This was an enormous blunder, because what I did was absolutely dumb and asocial. (Sorry, that was an impulsive action.) After a couple of minutes I corrected the mistake, but she did block me permanently anyway. Later Mark van der Beer informed me angrily that I had violated the privacy of his girlfriend.

By the way, I have written something about Mark van der Beer and his girlfriend, here:

http://fleshtrade.blogspot.nl/2013/08/a-prostitutes-boyfriend.html

and here:

http://fleshtrade.blogspot.nl/2013/08/the-boyfriend-of-prostitute.html

Although I knew who she was on de Wallen, all this time I have never dared to approach her and figure out if she really is the girlfriend of Mark van der Beer. Perhaps she knew nothing of his blog, and he didn’t give me permission to approach her anyway. But now that she has appeared on twitter I could inform her that I would come to here, and she thought it was okay, but I did have to pay. Unfortunately she started a little later that day, so I walked for one and a half hour across the red light district (de Wallen), until I noticed that the red lights above her window started to burn. Unfortunately the curtains were still closed. I waited for her for 40 minutes. At the end she opened the curtains. She looked at me with suspicion.

With a little doubt she let me in. I asked her if she was XXXXXX. This was correct. I introduced myself as Donkey from twitter. I asked if she was indeed Felicia Anna from twitter.

And this was correct!!!!!

And Mark van der Beer also exists. And no, she is not ‘the journalist’, and he isn’t either.

I paid her fair and square, and I first decided to introduce myself. I told her that I visited de Wallen 10 years ago, that I visited 3 prostitutes, and then I read about forced prostitution in de media, that it supposedly happened a lot on de Wallen in Amsterdam, and that therefore I didn’t dare to visit prostitutes for years.

She told me that when she started to work in prostitution that she also believed these stories from the media. She felt compassion for these women. But now that she works in prostitution for four years herself she doesn’t believe in it anymore.

She told for example that she chats a lot with other prostitutes. This happens for instance in the little kitchen. She asks me how it is possible that forced prostitutes would do this. After all, don’t they always have to stand behind the window, smile and make money? She also tells that often they are chatting with each other in each other’s rooms. And often they are phoning each other with their cell phones for hours and hours, so you don’t have to believe immediately that they are being kept in check by their pimps.

And she argues that the forced prostitutes could immediately go to the police. The police is always ready for you. And she says when clients notice that you are forced, they will offer you help. And there is an alarm button in the prostitution rooms. When you press that button the police comes immediately. She also complains that nearly all clients ask her if she is forced. When she says no, the clients say like “okay”.

She also finds it strange that people make such a fuss about prostitutes giving money to their lovers and husbands. Outside of prostitution people would find this normal, but when it happens within the world of prostitution people make a fuss about it. She says prostitutes also have a private life. Many prostitutes simply have boyfriends and husbands. And it is not strange that many Bulgarian and Romanian boyfriends and husbands of prostitutes don’t work, because they simply can’t find work here in the Netherlands. This is not because they are parasites or exploiters. Above all, they weren’t even allowed to work here until not so long ago.

I talked with her about my difficulties developing erections, and that on top of it I have premature orgasms. She says that this happens because of the weed. I said that I don’t use weed. (I was very tense at that moment, I was continuously blinking very hard with my eyes, so….)

She says that clients are often too excited. Especially tourists. They are very happy when they can legally visit a prostitute here. And when they do visit a prostitute at last, then it won’t work. She says that clients sometimes pay for an hour or a couple of hours. But she just sits there next to them doing nothing, because his penis won’t become erect.

I said to her that with Eleni it often does work. I can easily maintain an erection, and postpone my orgasms. She says that this is because I know her well, because I have been with her more often. According to Felicia Anna I feel more relaxed.

She told that there are also clients who only want to talk, just like I do now. And she has clients with the strangest wishes. Such as a man who paid 550 euro to walk around like a dog across her room, for almost three hours. She only had to look at him from her bed.

I told her that her boyfriend Mark van der Beer said that she had seen me, and that she really found me schizo. She told me that she thought I was somebody else. This was a regular client of hers.

She told that she didn’t understand the stories of some well-known victims of forced prostitutes. She had discussions with some of them on twitter. She asks why these women didn’t get help from the police, or why clients didn’t help them. And she doesn’t understand how a prostitute could initially choose to work in prostitution, but later end up being forced.

I told Felica Anna that this could be the case because these women left prostitution in 2007, and then the situation was very different from how it was now. And perhaps the police didn’t help in the past, but now they do.

I also asked her if she knew Saban B, he is the well-known pimp who extorted a lot of prostitutes and fellow pimps until 2007 on de Wallen. She had heard vaguely about him. I also asked her if she was approached by extorting men who asked to protect her in exchange for money. She said this never happened. But there was once a man once who asked her to become his boyfriend or something, and who also offered her protection or something. (I couldn’t really follow her at this moment.) [UPDATE: ... and it later turned out that she didn't say this at all. I really totally misunderstood, about the man who asked her to be her boyfriend that is.]

I brought forward the proposition that perhaps in the past there was much more forced prostitution on de Wallen, but now perhaps a lot less. Obviously I gladly hope what Felicia Anna tells is true, because I visit de Wallen regularly nowadays. I told her about a former forced prostitutes who confided to me that she thought that nearly all prostitutes on de Wallen (and het Zandpad) were coerced. (That perhaps some 40-years-old prostitutes were not forced, but they all entered prostitution because of a pimp.) But perhaps this was the case in the past. But Felicia Anna obviously doesn’t believe this.

At one moment I was out of questions. But I made up something. She told on twitter that she knows most the prostitutes who work on de Wallen. She says she knows 90% of them. So I subjected her to a test. Did she know Eleni? Yes, she indeed does! She could easily point out where she works. She has spoken with her a couple of times, and drank coffee with her. Eleni doesn’t seem to know Felicia Anna by the way. She probably forgot.

Did she know Susana with her green lingerie and her wiggling butt? Astonishingly enough she also knows her too! But she doesn’t know her particularly well. But she did speak with her a couple of times. I talked about the embarrassing situation when I stood outside after 5 minutes after a visit to Susana. I thought that Susana perhaps was coerced because she so bluntly got rid of her clients. Felicia Anna said that could be the case because a number of clients are not so nice. They could shout things like “suck me bitch” or something like that. (I didn’t do that with Suzana).

I asked her if she knew Mary with the thick glasses. No, she didn’t know her. And she also didn’t know the Russian Kristina. I told her that Kristina didn’t let me inside. Kristina simply let me stand in front of her window. I have never experienced that before. Felicia Anna said that just like Kristina she also refused clients every now and then.

Well, I think her hit ratio is 50% or something! 2 out of 4. [It turns out that she actually does know Kristina, and she doesn't like her, and she is actually Romanian. So that makes the hit ratio 75%, 3 out of 4.]

I told her once that I warned Meld Misdaad Anoniem (=report crime anonymously) regarding one prostitute. I noticed that this women behaved weirdly and nervously. When I wanted to penetrate her doggystyle, she pulled her body back and more upward. Other clients who have described her also say this. Felicia explained that doggystyle could be a painful position for a woman. You could really hurt a woman in this position. Women differ among each other in this respect, and some women can’t handle the bigger penises that well. The same could be true for this particular woman. I said that I wasn’t that well hung. She said, that in my case perhaps this woman still couldn’t handle my size in that position. And she said that Dutch men often are ‘big’.

I talked with her about the Gucci-bags. She tells just as Mark van der Beer does, that prostitutes have the tendency to walk around wearing expensive clothes and sporting expensive bags. Their question to people is, would human traffickers allow this? I told her that on rechtspraak.nl I read about cases in which women were absolutely coerced to work in prostitution, but these women still neatly received 50% of their earnings from the pimps. Perhaps they buy Gucci-bags with this money? Here the conversation hit a dead end, because she absolutely didn’t agree with this. We just went around in circles where she again explains you can easily go to the police, etc... And if you are forced then you call the police, don’t you? Unfortunately, I forgot to use the argument that pimps are very capable of threatening the prostitutes and their family members, and that the prostitutes simply don’t dare to go to the police. But I think that we wouldn’t have been able to leave the circle, if I would have said it.

I suddenly realized that one of the last trains would depart soon, and I quickly said goodbye to her. I said that I hoped that she was right, and that the situation had improved.

By the way, I did offered my apologies for violating her privacy. She is very forgiving and tolerant.

And if somebody has questions, you may always ask it to her on twitter.

PS: Mark van der Beer stopped with his blogs and twitter-account, because he wanted to prevent that he and his girlfriend would be discovered, and he didn’t want to get in her way since she appeared on twitter.

PS 2: she unblocked me.

PS 3: I have asked on twitter what she thinks of the threats that pimps utter to prostitutes. Doesn’t that make the prostitutes scared enough not to call in the help of the police and clients? She says that if you just think rationally, then you shouldn’t be afraid. You can call the police, and the police will help you. And if they threaten family members in your home country, then you call the police in your home country, and they will be there before the pimps have arrived in your home country. She asked if I really believe “someone would kill two people, risk jail, for one girl, for some money”? She said that I watch too much TV. I said it doesn’t matter, because it’s the perception of the forced prostitutes themselves which is most important. They regard the threats as to be taken seriously. It doesn’t matter if the pimps never carry out their threats. She says that the women can go to the police anonymously. And so on, … see! We are going around in circles.

And she never saw a very evil person who financially exploits a prostitute, by way of deception, violence and/or threats of violence, in four years time. She says she just sees boys who have girls there, but they don’t use force or violence on them. She never saw a pimp in four years.

PS 4: I have a twitter-account too!:

https://twitter.com/Donkey_Kris2

PS 5: I had a similar conversation with Eleni (aka Helena), as I had with Felicia Anna. You can read about the conversation with Eleni here:

http://fleshtrade.blogspot.com/2013/06/goddess-elena.html

PS 6: It turns out that Felicia Anna knows Kristina. So that makes it 3 out 4, or 75%.

Sunday, March 02, 2014

How do the clients rate a forced prostitute?

Dear Cliente X, by accident I discovered the reviews on hookers.nl concerning a former victim of human trafficking whose verdict has been released on rechtspraak.nl. Because her pimp was convicted, you can safely say that she really was a forced prostitute. You can read how clients describe her. She has left prostitution for years now, but her old reviews can still be viewed on the wayback machine.

She has six pages with reviews on hookers.nl, all Dutch: page 1, page 2, page 3, page 4 (which is largely empty), page 5 and page 6. And there is a big archive page with all the pages in one page, but many are missing by the way.

You can read the first verdict related to her case here in Dutch, it was the 'first instance' or 'eerste aanleg' which is how they call it in Dutch:

ECLI:NL:RBUTR:2011:BQ6884

Here’s the appeal after the case went to a higher court:

ECLI:NL:GHARL:2013:8522

Here I describe more about this case on my blog:

Two forced prostitutes on the Zandpad

The perpetrator, a Moroccan man, forced two Moroccan women into prostitution. The woman I found reviews about is called victim 1 in the published verdict. I will give a short summary of what the man did to her. Basically, I just copy some text from the blog posts above, which are some translations I made from the original Dutch verdict, and I have made some amendments using the appeal:

[Victim 1] has lived at her parent’s home until the age of 15. A man came once to ask permission to marry her. This man was [suspect] and he came from Utrecht. [Suspect] came together with his mother to the house of [victim 1] and asked the mother and the uncle of [victim 1] permission to marry her. Within a week [victim 1] was married to [suspect]. She then was 15 years old. After the marriage [suspect] went back to the Netherlands after a week. [Victim 1] then stayed in Morocco. When he came back after seven or eight months, he said to her that her documents were ready and that she was allowed to accompany him to the Netherlands. [Suspect] told her that she would study and work in the Netherlands.
In the Netherlands, [victim 1] came to live in the house of her mother-in-law, on the [address]. Later on, she went living with [suspect] in Bilthoven. Also after she has lived in Bilthoven, she went back to the house of her mother-in-law. She had the key of the house of her mother-in-law. She has also lived with other family members of [suspect].
During the period that [victim 1] lived with her mother-in-law, her passport was in the possession of [suspect].
[Victim 1] couldn't read or write the Dutch language. She knew nothing about the Netherlands. She wasn't allowed by [suspect] to follow Dutch lessons. She has only been to school for 1 or 2 days.

Since the first day that she lived in the Netherlands, she was beaten by [suspect]. She was beaten with the hand or with shoes. [Suspect] once also shaved her head bare. Her hair was then so short that she couldn't grab it anymore. This was during the wedding of the brother of [suspect], [involved person 6]. She was also raped in her anus.
[Suspect] has threatened her that he would kill her and her mother and sisters. [Victim 1] was obliged by [suspect] to have sex with other men for money. He taught her gestures for giving a blowjob and fucking. [Suspect] also demonstrated it with a banana and a condom. At first he showed her the window prostitutes on de Wallen in Amsterdam. She also had to look at the window prostitutes on het Zandpad in Utrecht. She was barely eighteen years old. When she was 18 or 19 years old he brought her to Utrecht. Since the age of 19 she worked on het Zandpad. (Things are a little bit unclear here, according to the perpetrator she at first began to work in Amsterdam. According to the victim, she also worked on de Wallen in Amsterdam).

During the first months, her room on the Zandpad in Utrecht was arranged by [suspect]. At the moment she knew how to do it herself, she arranged it herself from then on.
On March 6, 2009, when she worked on the Zandpad, [victim 1] declared to the police that [suspect] acted as her chauffeur every now and then.
The money that she earned she had to give to [suspect]. If she didn't give money to him, then he would kill her. He also beat her if she didn’t earn enough money, or if she didn’t work long enough. The more money that she earned, the better it was. She earned at least between 500 and 700 guilders per day and at most between 2000 and 3000 guilders per day. She never earned less than €500 per day (comment by Donkey: yes, they are mixing up the currencies). When [suspect] was in jail, she had to send the money to the prison and pay rent to a Czech man for a restaurant.

[Suspect] gave her drugs. Since the age of 17 she started to use drugs. She couldn't work without the drugs and the drugs took her shame away, it made her less shy. She never obtained the drugs herself, [suspect] did that.

She has scars on her eyebrows. She once also broke her nose. He beat her in those spots on her face. She once was forced to work with a broken leg, caused by an accident. She also worked with stitches in her eyebrows. In 2006 she divorced him. She stopped working in prostitution in 2008 when she was pregnant (, the clients mention a return in 2009 by the way). A client who regularly visited her until 2007 on de Zandpad observed bruises on her body. Every time he was with her she had a bruise. She told him that she was regularly beaten by her husband, and that her husband forced her to work in prostitution. Together with another prostitute he helped her flee to Spain. This other prostitute also mentions that she had bruises. The client mentions that her work was her life, because she had no life outside this. More clients and other persons are mentioned who have noticed injuries and scars on her body. She told more people she was coerced.

[Victim 1] apparently trusted on it that the suspect - as her partner - would offer her a new future, but she has been betrayed by the suspect in that respect. The suspect's family, in which she was admitted, did not resist or barely resisted the acts of the suspect, they even partly supported him. The suspect has put [victim 1], when she just had become 18 years old, to work on the Zandpad. To bring and to keep [victim 1] in prostitution, the suspect didn't shy away of any means: he implemented violence and he threatened with violence against herself and the persons she loves and he forced her to use drugs.
By doing this, he did make sure that she stayed isolated, so that he could keep her under control and she couldn't or hardly could appeal to social workers for example.
Only when the suspect stayed imprisoned for a long time since August 2005, [victim 1] somewhat succeeded in struggling out of his influence, in any case in such a way, that in 2007 she visited her family in Spain. Later on, she even dared to ask, when she was pregnant, to hand over only a part of her earnings.
As happens more often when one of the means of exploitation is an affectionate relationship feigned by the pimp, [victim 1] has returned to the suspect again, more often than she herself could understand. She also partly attributes it to sorcery. Aside from that, she felt that because of the continued existence of her Moroccan marriage with the suspect, she was forced to return to him (again and again).
The court can also explain her return to the suspect and to the life that wasn't wished by her, like one of the witnesses has done: "[victim 1]'s work was her life because she didn't have a life beyond that … in some situations you do something because you have no better alternatives".
The court adds to this that the suspect took away the other and earlier life from [victim 1], by bringing her in a situation that estranged her from her family and that made impossible a further life in her country of origin.

That was the short summary. Now what do the clients tell about her? The funny thing is, they are very enthusiastic about her!!! Although it must be said that some clients find her a little bit emotionally unstable. She often talks very stupidly and very quickly, and she sometimes could hardly be understood. Several clients call her hyperactive. Some clients do have the icky feeling that she doesn’t entirely work voluntarily. The clients describe her as a horny little devil, but some say she exaggerates a bit in that respect. According to clients she does seem to like the sex a lot, and she does her work with a lot of devotion. She groans a lot during the sex. A couple of clients call her a ‘whirlwind’ or a ‘tornado’. One clients says she is amazing, nice, naughty and she has a sense of humour.

Clients mention that after they have entered her room, she immediately starts to French kiss them. Regular clients are received enthusiastically, as if she is happy to see them again. A client describes how she immediately French kissed him after he entered her room. She said to him she was also very horny. She undressed eagerly, and she lied down on the bed, and she aroused him from there. During the blowjobs she often French kisses her clients, and she rubs her breasts on their bodies.

One client describes how she lured him into her window prostitution room. She pushed her breasts together and she challenged him with a horny expression on her face. Another client describes how he had a nice conversation with her after the sex. The clients are very fond of her blowjob techniques which she performed with a lot of devotion. Another describes how she treated him as a long lost lover. One client said she would treat him better because he was a handsome young man. She gave one client winegums afterwards. A client describes her as kind and sincere. He finds her a very friendly person. Another client says that she describes her work as her hobby.

She said to one client that she needed to have 20 clients that day, because it was payday. She said there weren’t many clients that weeks because of the (construction) activities on het Zandpad. She said that after the deduction of the rent, she only earned 10 euro weekly.

She said to one client she had a quarrel with her husband just before he (the client) entered her room. He had the impression that she thought something like: what do I care? She started to French kiss him, and his clothes were almost torn off his body. She suddenly gave him a blowjob without condom. According to him, she had an orgasm after he licked her pussy. He said they had sex like savages, in the missionary position, doggy style, and with French kisses all over. She wanted him to ejaculate in her mouth, and she swallowed everything. He said that he left the boat with trembling legs. But the next time she thought it would be nice if he had more money in his pocket, because he had stayed for an hour, and he paid afterwards, but it turned out he didn’t have much money. More clients say that she often doesn’t ask money in advance.

A client says she uses funny remarks like: “your dick tastes like strawberries, delicious”, “you have beautiful blue eyes, may I have child from you?”, “Nobody is allowed to cum in my mouth, except you”, “And now you have to pay 2000 euro, because I have to pay the rent”.

Although this woman was clearly coerced, a couple of clients mention she went to her family in Morocco for 5 weeks. One client told her afterwards that she didn’t go to Morocco. She told one client she had a week off, and she had a quarrel with her boyfriend so she didn’t have sex for a week. She said to him she was very horny. He was the first client after that week. And he clearly noticed this the following 45 minutes. Another client mentions that she wasn’t present for a while because she had a flue. A client mentions that she didn’t work during the Ramadan, but she still had to pay the window rent all the time. So it is interesting to notice that the pimp didn’t coerce here to work all the time. He did give her some time off every now and then. And he gave her the freedom to buy things, because one client mentions that she was about to buy sheep for the festival of sacrifice. And one client mentions she didn’t work every day of the week. She worked during the afternoons during the weekdays, and he also spotted her on a Saturday once. Another client mentions that she works between 10:00 and 18:00 hours, so that isn’t particularly long.

At the end of 2004, she told one client that the rumours that she was going to divorce her husband were untrue, and she wasn’t going to stop working in prostitution. She urged him to write this down on hookers.nl, or else it would cost her clients, and everybody could write just everything.

A client complains to the other reviewers that they shouldn’t criticize her for talking too much. He actually quite likes that. He found her very enthusiastic and she clearly enjoyed the sex. He called her a girl with class. She said to him that she was upset that some people write so negatively about her on hookers.nl, and that some said that she would stop working in prostitution, which wasn’t true. He found her the best prostitute he ever met. Another client notices that some men call her unstable, but in his opinion she just lives fast, and she is just very enjoyable. He mentions that she had a broken leg, because she fell off the balcony while washing the windows. He mentioned this on May 26, 2005. He had visited her that afternoon. This is also mentioned in one of the verdicts by the way. It was noticed by relief workers of the Huiskamer Aanloopproject Prostituees (HAP = living room of visitors project for prostitutes) who mentioned on June 17, 2005 that she has broken her right leg. She was asked if her husband had anything to do with it. No, this time it wasn't. The pimp was originally charged with pushing her off the balcony which supposedly caused her to break her legs, but this charge was dropped later.

By the way, it really seems to be her. In one of the verdicts (the appeal) her date of birth is mentioned. This turns out to be July 1, 1981. A client mentions that on July 1, 2005 she will become 24. So this is exactly right. Several clients also mention her pregnancy during the period between February 23, 2008 and March 12, 2008. She was in the late stages of pregnancy, and she told a client that she was 5 months pregnant (, this wasn’t exactly right). One client said she would work until pregnancy leave. In reality the police stopped her from working while being pregnant. She told a client on October 12, 2008, that she gave birth to her daughter in April 2008, and that she didn’t work for eight months.

According to one verdict (the appeal), she has worked on de Zandpad with bruises on her body and in her face. The clients on hookers.nl never mention this. This is strange.

All in all, it seems as if she really enjoyed her work according to the clients. But according to a client who testified to the police (or court or whatever), this was the case because working in prostitution was her life, and because she didn’t have another life. This woman was clearly coerced, with a capital C. This case is a proof that forced prostitutes could absolutely seem to be enjoying their work from the perspective of the clients. And perhaps this woman really did enjoy her work in prostitution, but she still was coerced anyway. The two things don’t rule each other out.

BTW: Her case was one of the major reasons why the municipality of Utrecht decided to close the window prostitution boats on het Zandpad. The municipality accused the brothel owners that they didn't interfere when this particular victim worked with bruises on her body and with a broken leg, and while being pregnant.

BTW 2: There are reviews about women on hookers.nl of whom it is very clear that they are coerced. But there is no confirmation on rechtspraak.nl. This is the first victim described on rechtspraak.nl of whom I could track down her reviews on hookers.nl. The point now is, how many of the seemingly happy hookers described on hookers.nl are actually coerced? I hope the woman I regularly visit as a client is not coerced. She tells me she isn't. I hope she's right.